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Shelly Presence Gen4 vs Apollo Automation MSR-2

Buy the Shelly Presence Gen4 if you need multi-person tracking, several detection zones, or native Matter and Zigbee support. Buy the Apollo MSR-2 if you run Home Assistant and want a small, ESP32-based sensor that also measures CO2, light, UV, temperature and pressure. The Shelly is the stronger pure presence sensor; the Apollo is the stronger all-in-one environmental node. Owners of both praise still detection, and both need tuning to ignore pets and fans.

  • Choose the Shelly Presence Gen4 if you want one sensor that tracks up to 6 people across up to 10 zones and works with Matter, Zigbee or Wi-Fi out of the box.
  • Choose the Apollo MSR-2 if you use Home Assistant and want presence plus CO2, lux, UV, temperature and pressure in one small ESP32 device.

Prices

  • Shelly Presence Gen4: $79.95 at eBay (last seen Nov 10)
  • Apollo Automation MSR-2: $37.99 at Apollo Automation (last seen Nov 10)
  • Difference: the Apollo Automation MSR-2 is $41.96 cheaper than the Shelly Presence Gen4 at the latest prices (Nov 10)
Shelly
Shelly Presence Gen4 S4SN-0U61X mmWave Presence Sensor

Shelly Presence Gen4

Shelly Presence Gen4 S4SN-0U61X mmWave Presence Sensor

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Pros
  • Tracks several people and still bodies, not just motion
  • Up to 10 zones for room-level automations
  • Matter, Zigbee and Wi-Fi 6 cover most hubs
  • Pet and robot vacuum filtering
Cons
  • Needs constant USB-C power
  • No CO2, temperature or humidity sensing
  • No buzzer or status LED
Apollo Automation
Apollo Automation MSR-2

Apollo Automation MSR-2

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Pros
  • Presence plus CO2, lux, UV, temperature and pressure
  • Small case that fits in tight spots
  • LED and buzzer give local feedback
  • Owners report easy Home Assistant setup
Cons
  • Single-target radar only
  • No Matter or Zigbee; ESPHome and Home Assistant focused
  • Bluetooth tracking needs YAML configuration

What separates them

Shelly Presence Gen4Apollo Automation MSR-2
Radar and trackingmmWave radar tracking up to 6 people at onceHLK-LD2410B radar, single-target tracking only
Detection zonesUp to 10 configurable zones with sensitivity and filteringZone calibration through gates and the onboard LED
CoverageUp to 42 m²About 6 m range, 0.75 m gate size
EcosystemMatter-over-Wi-Fi, Wi-Fi 6, Zigbee 3.0 and Bluetooth LE built inESP32 board, set up through ESPHome and Home Assistant
Environmental sensorsAmbient light sensor with dark, twilight and bright statesCO2, lux, UV, temperature and pressure sensors
ExtrasNo buzzer or RGB LEDRGB LED and piezo buzzer for notifications, Bluetooth device tracking
Power and placementRuns on 5V USB-C, so it needs a cable runCompact case, about 30% smaller than the MSR-1
SetupShelly app, cloud, Home Assistant and other platformsBest with Home Assistant and YAML config; more manual work

Price history

$79.95$37.99
Oct 31Nov 11
  • Shelly Presence Gen4: lowest $79.95 on Nov 11 at eBay.
  • Apollo Automation MSR-2: lowest $37.99 on Oct 31 at Apollo Automation; $37.99 on Nov 11.

Prices at every store

Shelly Presence Gen4

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    $84.99+ $4.99 shippingChecked 9 h ago
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    Availability unknownSold by sa_331764

    $79.95Checked 9 h ago
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    Availability unknown

    $84.95Checked 9 h ago
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Apollo Automation MSR-2

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Specs compared

SpecShelly Presence Gen4Apollo Automation MSR-2
colorBlackRed
Detection technologymmWave radar—
People trackingup to 6 separate people simultaneously—
Detection zonesup to 10 customized detection zones—
Coverage areaup to 42 m²—
Power inputUSB‑C (5 V)—
Wi-FiWi-Fi 6—
BluetoothBluetooth 5 LE—
ZigbeeZigbee 3.0—
Matter supportMatter-over-Wi-Fi—
Light sensordark, twilight, and bright states—
Device modelS4SN-0U61X—
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SpecShelly Presence Gen4Apollo Automation MSR-2
BLE ID0x1821—
Communication StandardZigbee—
App ControlYes—
Radar detection range—about 6 meters (19.7 feet)
Radar model—HLK-LD2410B
Target tracking—single-target tracking only
CO2 sensor model—SCD-40
Radar gate size—0.75 m
Radar gate 8 range—6 m
LUX/UV sensor model

What reviewers say

Apollo Automation MSR-2

Owners describe the MSR-2 as reliable for presence and zone lighting in Home Assistant, with plenty of settings to dial in. They like the small size and the number of sensors it reports. The main friction is configuration, especially the YAML-based Bluetooth tracker.

What people mention
  • Presence detectionPraisedOwners say still-person and motion detection work reliably for zone lighting and occupancy.
  • TuningPraisedMany settings let users dial in sensitivity and tune out false positives.
  • SizePraisedThe case is noticeably smaller than the MSR-1 and easy to place.
  • SetupMixedSetup is straightforward for Home Assistant users but involves many options.

Questions and answers

Which is better for a living room with several people?
The Shelly Presence Gen4. It tracks up to 6 people at once and splits the room into up to 10 zones. The Apollo MSR-2 follows one target.
Which is better for air quality monitoring?
The Apollo MSR-2. It has a CO2 sensor plus lux, UV, temperature and pressure. The Shelly only senses light levels.
Do both detect someone sitting still?
Yes. Both use mmWave radar, which holds presence when a person is seated or barely moving. Owners of each report good still detection after tuning.
Which is easier to set up without Home Assistant?
The Shelly. It works through the Shelly app and supports Matter and Zigbee. The Apollo is built around ESPHome and Home Assistant.
Is the Apollo worth stepping up to from a plain motion sensor?
Yes, if you want presence detection and environmental readings in one device. If you only need reliable presence, the Shelly covers more people and zones.

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